Jesus began speaking to me as He was sat on His Throne.
"For indeed you are seated with Me in Heavenly places, as you can see" he extended His hand out into the room we were sat in. It was too big to grasp and yet I knew I must. There was something of royal character about Jesus, about His Kingship, His Lordship that I had not seen before as he showed me the room.
"It's is Fear that drives mankind away, away from the place they were destined to be, sat here with Me. Many have not ventured past the tower entrance, many that have have not ventured past the cold room that awaits and of those that do, not many have ventured past the crystal veneer that separates your world from this in the waiting room of the few that make it past this point few of these make it to this room.
It occurred to me how eeary and empty the room felt.
Jesus injected, there are many who have seats here, only very few have you seen, this is good news, many have ventured into this room, few have you seen. Yet I would have more seated here with Me in these heavenly places.
Pausing he said...
Some things you are very good at, you are good at being saved by grace, being born again. You are not very good at being ambassodors and learning to be co-heirs with me here. You are good at the you things not so good at the me things.
Overcoming the fear helps, the fear grips you, you must overcome it yet in the waiting room you must prove beyond else the one thing that allows you entrance to this great hall. That one thing is the desire to gaze upon me all your days, just as David did. To know your enemy, your real enemy that is, sin, fear and pride is a help but it is not the one thing. You overcome by the blood of the lamb, you overcome by desiring this one thing.
Jesus arose and began walking down the throne room, The next moment we were seated in the terraced seating.
This place is the great hall of judgement. It is also the throne of grace. You must seek both to be here also. Most Christians seek one or the other, sometimes they choose to seek one above the other not necessarily for themselves but neither necessarily for others. Sometimes they seek to find grace for others, but none will be found here. Sometimes seek judgements for others, again none will be found here.
Grace is both apportioned and found according to the measure given to each individual, you can only therefore seek grace for youself here. This is wisdom and it is wisdom to seek my judgements for this is grace apportioned for you, that you may seek judgement while you are on earth. Seeking my grace also allows you the wisdom to lead others here so that they to may find it and lead others into it. At this Paul was more gifted than any other. He so desired to lead many to me yet wisdom taught him to seek me for himself. Once he knew both my grace and my judgements he could lead many to me and so he did.
All who come here master the one thing!
This place is where the great cloud of witnesses meet.
I looked around. I did not need to be told why this place was also called this. As the seating shot into the clouds I could see why for myself? It was a glorious place. Jesus interjected
This is where the saints of old sit both in judgement and to gaze at the saints of the future. They have overcome both by the word of their testimony and loving not their own lives even until death.
The entrance began to open and one by one many began to pass through the door, one by one. Many were dressed in plain clothes and I could see most of these wore the clothing of monks. I saw a very humble monk his clothing hid him as he began to make his way to the throne room...
"These are my special witnesses" Jesus said.
I watched as they all entered then walked in single file until the man leading stopped.
"This is Noah, he was first minister to mankind on the earth."
He stopped in the middle and looked up. I could see two great crowns hovering in midair. One was lower than the other. They both looked the same but the higher one was more glorious than the one below. I could see they looked similar because the higher one was much, much larger but because it was much much higher it gave the perspective that it was just the same. Noah stood underneath one of the crowns and just disappeared like he had been beamed up in an episode of star trek. I then saw again and again each individual disappear including the monk. Many would stand under the smaller crown, few the larger.
I then looked up to the seating on the opposite side and I could see the same figures approaching these seats. They all began sitting in an area in the seating that looked as if it were especially cordoned off as if it were executive seating for a sporting event. Here the seats were slightly larger. Made of a slightly redder leather on the seat. I wondered why this was and then could see this was divided into two section, one on the right, one on the left. The one on the left was split into three sections and was about two / thirds full. I looked a small part of the entire hall but I could see that those who sat here numbered thousands upon thousands.
These are my fivefold ministers Jesus said
Just then we all appeared in the gap between the two. The section that was full, now on my left were all mingling and talking together mostly between each of the sections divided in two, occasionally it would get load and then quieten down where chatting only remiained between those around until there was silence and then someone would raise their voice shouting something out and then the whole thing would start again.
These are the great evangelists, teachers and pastors of the ages past. Few more there are to come.
Jesus then looked left...
and these are the prophets and the apostles. Turning with Jesus I saw this area was practically empty to my dismay.
My farthers house is a house of many rooms Jesus said
Many who are apportioned to sit in these seats have yet to come.
Soon this will be full.
I could only see two people, only two! I could not see far and I remembered how huge the room is, so large you could almost seat every man, woman and child that ever lived. I endeavoured to think as best I could as I looked up. Although this looked much smaller from the other side, scale and distance had only made it so as I made out the smallish figures.
Jesus said...
Your sight like much is made perfect here, certainly it's much better and clearer than it is on earth, however it is not yet perfect.
As we moved across the room getting closer and closer with each step I looked up and could not see anyone they must be beyond my sight I thought as I am now too close to see anyone than those directly near to me.
Eventually seeing some I went and sat next to the two people I could see. First there was a monk and then there was someone else sat next to him. These are the prophets and apostles of the dark ages.
Jesus said.
This is Martin Luther.
Luther spoke, he looked sad but as he spoke there was a reverence in what he said and I could see a smile on his face as her retorted his life to me.
I was counted a great prophet in my time by the Lord, which is why I am sat here
Looking back across I wondered if those apportioned pastors, evangelists and teachers even knew who he was as they continued their chatter and wondering why they did not speak to him.
They would if they knew I was here he said,
but they do not look and they certainly do not come to see for themselves so it is just me and my friend who sit here.... for the meantime
I thought about the person sat next to him and who he was, Jesus quickly spoke. He is another prophet, an anonymous prophet. Luther lived but he was murdered for his beliefs, he didn't get to live to fulfill his ministry calling but many matured and believed in me because of what he taught and what I did because of not only what he did but because of his death so he is accounted a great prophet.
Jesus countinued...
Minisitry continues in death as well as in life, sometimes more powerfully so.
There are many more fivefold ministers here in this hall but only those counted great in my sight get to sit here.
I was then taken to the town.
It had become a great city it was now much bigger and darker, Jesus began to speak
See what the Church has become, you build these great buildings up to the heavens in My name yet you do not seek me, certainly not to be seated with me in the heavenly places. You must tell the fivefold ministers to stop building and seek me, for this is what they build.
Then we both looked at this town. It was a dark place
This is what the church has become Jesus then repeated, tell them not to build
As he said this i marveled at how horrible this city was, it reminded me of a city I had been in, a city i new very well . The old buildings were there but they were either left crumbling, built upon or were pulled down to make way for the modern cathedrals of our age. I watched as the vision began to fade and I found myself awake in the very same place I had just left.
"For indeed you are seated with Me in Heavenly places, as you can see" he extended His hand out into the room we were sat in. It was too big to grasp and yet I knew I must. There was something of royal character about Jesus, about His Kingship, His Lordship that I had not seen before as he showed me the room.
"It's is Fear that drives mankind away, away from the place they were destined to be, sat here with Me. Many have not ventured past the tower entrance, many that have have not ventured past the cold room that awaits and of those that do, not many have ventured past the crystal veneer that separates your world from this in the waiting room of the few that make it past this point few of these make it to this room.
It occurred to me how eeary and empty the room felt.
Jesus injected, there are many who have seats here, only very few have you seen, this is good news, many have ventured into this room, few have you seen. Yet I would have more seated here with Me in these heavenly places.
Pausing he said...
Some things you are very good at, you are good at being saved by grace, being born again. You are not very good at being ambassodors and learning to be co-heirs with me here. You are good at the you things not so good at the me things.
Overcoming the fear helps, the fear grips you, you must overcome it yet in the waiting room you must prove beyond else the one thing that allows you entrance to this great hall. That one thing is the desire to gaze upon me all your days, just as David did. To know your enemy, your real enemy that is, sin, fear and pride is a help but it is not the one thing. You overcome by the blood of the lamb, you overcome by desiring this one thing.
Jesus arose and began walking down the throne room, The next moment we were seated in the terraced seating.
This place is the great hall of judgement. It is also the throne of grace. You must seek both to be here also. Most Christians seek one or the other, sometimes they choose to seek one above the other not necessarily for themselves but neither necessarily for others. Sometimes they seek to find grace for others, but none will be found here. Sometimes seek judgements for others, again none will be found here.
Grace is both apportioned and found according to the measure given to each individual, you can only therefore seek grace for youself here. This is wisdom and it is wisdom to seek my judgements for this is grace apportioned for you, that you may seek judgement while you are on earth. Seeking my grace also allows you the wisdom to lead others here so that they to may find it and lead others into it. At this Paul was more gifted than any other. He so desired to lead many to me yet wisdom taught him to seek me for himself. Once he knew both my grace and my judgements he could lead many to me and so he did.
All who come here master the one thing!
This place is where the great cloud of witnesses meet.
I looked around. I did not need to be told why this place was also called this. As the seating shot into the clouds I could see why for myself? It was a glorious place. Jesus interjected
This is where the saints of old sit both in judgement and to gaze at the saints of the future. They have overcome both by the word of their testimony and loving not their own lives even until death.
The entrance began to open and one by one many began to pass through the door, one by one. Many were dressed in plain clothes and I could see most of these wore the clothing of monks. I saw a very humble monk his clothing hid him as he began to make his way to the throne room...
"These are my special witnesses" Jesus said.
I watched as they all entered then walked in single file until the man leading stopped.
"This is Noah, he was first minister to mankind on the earth."
He stopped in the middle and looked up. I could see two great crowns hovering in midair. One was lower than the other. They both looked the same but the higher one was more glorious than the one below. I could see they looked similar because the higher one was much, much larger but because it was much much higher it gave the perspective that it was just the same. Noah stood underneath one of the crowns and just disappeared like he had been beamed up in an episode of star trek. I then saw again and again each individual disappear including the monk. Many would stand under the smaller crown, few the larger.
I then looked up to the seating on the opposite side and I could see the same figures approaching these seats. They all began sitting in an area in the seating that looked as if it were especially cordoned off as if it were executive seating for a sporting event. Here the seats were slightly larger. Made of a slightly redder leather on the seat. I wondered why this was and then could see this was divided into two section, one on the right, one on the left. The one on the left was split into three sections and was about two / thirds full. I looked a small part of the entire hall but I could see that those who sat here numbered thousands upon thousands.
These are my fivefold ministers Jesus said
Just then we all appeared in the gap between the two. The section that was full, now on my left were all mingling and talking together mostly between each of the sections divided in two, occasionally it would get load and then quieten down where chatting only remiained between those around until there was silence and then someone would raise their voice shouting something out and then the whole thing would start again.
These are the great evangelists, teachers and pastors of the ages past. Few more there are to come.
Jesus then looked left...
and these are the prophets and the apostles. Turning with Jesus I saw this area was practically empty to my dismay.
My farthers house is a house of many rooms Jesus said
Many who are apportioned to sit in these seats have yet to come.
Soon this will be full.
I could only see two people, only two! I could not see far and I remembered how huge the room is, so large you could almost seat every man, woman and child that ever lived. I endeavoured to think as best I could as I looked up. Although this looked much smaller from the other side, scale and distance had only made it so as I made out the smallish figures.
Jesus said...
Your sight like much is made perfect here, certainly it's much better and clearer than it is on earth, however it is not yet perfect.
As we moved across the room getting closer and closer with each step I looked up and could not see anyone they must be beyond my sight I thought as I am now too close to see anyone than those directly near to me.
Eventually seeing some I went and sat next to the two people I could see. First there was a monk and then there was someone else sat next to him. These are the prophets and apostles of the dark ages.
Jesus said.
This is Martin Luther.
Luther spoke, he looked sad but as he spoke there was a reverence in what he said and I could see a smile on his face as her retorted his life to me.
I was counted a great prophet in my time by the Lord, which is why I am sat here
Looking back across I wondered if those apportioned pastors, evangelists and teachers even knew who he was as they continued their chatter and wondering why they did not speak to him.
They would if they knew I was here he said,
but they do not look and they certainly do not come to see for themselves so it is just me and my friend who sit here.... for the meantime
I thought about the person sat next to him and who he was, Jesus quickly spoke. He is another prophet, an anonymous prophet. Luther lived but he was murdered for his beliefs, he didn't get to live to fulfill his ministry calling but many matured and believed in me because of what he taught and what I did because of not only what he did but because of his death so he is accounted a great prophet.
Jesus countinued...
Minisitry continues in death as well as in life, sometimes more powerfully so.
There are many more fivefold ministers here in this hall but only those counted great in my sight get to sit here.
I was then taken to the town.
It had become a great city it was now much bigger and darker, Jesus began to speak
See what the Church has become, you build these great buildings up to the heavens in My name yet you do not seek me, certainly not to be seated with me in the heavenly places. You must tell the fivefold ministers to stop building and seek me, for this is what they build.
Then we both looked at this town. It was a dark place
This is what the church has become Jesus then repeated, tell them not to build
As he said this i marveled at how horrible this city was, it reminded me of a city I had been in, a city i new very well . The old buildings were there but they were either left crumbling, built upon or were pulled down to make way for the modern cathedrals of our age. I watched as the vision began to fade and I found myself awake in the very same place I had just left.
